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The Desperate Attempt to Make the Epstein Files Disappear

Katie Phang joins us to dissect the late night vote burying the Epstein List.

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MAGA is melting down on this whole Jeffrey Epstein cover up. What are your thoughts on that?

Well, I want to look at it from the lens of being a lawyer, right? And what I did is after I heard all of this BS coming from Pamela Jo, why she's not going to release it, and that really reluctant kind of damn bingo point. Go Bongino hedging on it as well as Kash Patel. I went back to the indictment, the last superseding indictment for Ghislaine Maxwell, because remember, she got indicted after Epstein died in a Ohio with an asterisk, right?

So you go back to this indictment. And the crazy thing is, it clearly states in at least two of the counts for which she was indicted by a grand jury, and she went to a jury trial, and she was convicted. And she's serving a sentence in federal prison that she conspired with a Jeffrey Epstein quote and others and quote.

So, at a minimum, there are conspirators, co-conspirators that participated in criminal conduct. There have been multiple grand juries impaneled and putting aside the confidentiality of grand jury records, which I understand. But at this point, with Epstein dead, Maxwell in prison, you know, I think they should all be out. But you also have civil litigation. So what I don't understand is if there's nothing to see here or move along, people, then what's the harm in releasing all of it?

With the proper redactions to protect the safety and the identities of the victims? I am not saying let's do an exposé on victims. I want to focus on the people that had their fingerprints and their DNA literally involved in this. And I don't give a shit if you're a Republican or a Democrat. Put it all out there and let the American public judge as they should.

I completely agree. What fascinates me about this whole thing is these conspiracy theorists who are like pedophile rings at pizza-gate in basements, that they don't have basements, that they're not making the leap like Epstein did under Trump. Epstein's files are not released under Trump. And then, you know, obviously MAGA. I don't give them that much credit, but that like the Dan Bongino who he has connected the dots like, I don't understand that.

That's what fascinates me is somebody who knows that's been in the FBI. They know. Elon Musk knows because he told this on his Twitter account. He knows. So how are they not? I mean, I guess they really...Believed.

Is that what my takeaway is?

I don't think they ever legitimately believe it. I think they are people of convenience, right? And so for them, they know what the red meat is for that base. I think the problem ends up being the lack of accountability, as in self kind of accountability. Like I made a mistake, like I bought into this hook and sinker and I never should have.

No. What they're struggling with is how do I abandon these very, very public, forward facing statements I've made about the value of these files and how they have been suppressed and hidden by Democratic administrations and Democratic dodges? And now, clearly, we have a Republican administration, a Republican DOJ, a Republican A.G., and she literally is gatekeeping information that all of them have made such a big stink over over years.

I'm not talking just a couple of weeks. For years they have ridden this horse to death. And now they're saying to the look and they're like, well, why is the horse dead? Like, what am I supposed to do with it? Well, don't asses like we're not going to let it go to the glue factory, like we're going to make sure that it's out there.

Which is why Ro Khanna was like, hey, here's an amendment. Let's vote on it. And of course, the House Republicans are like, sike! We don't really want the Americans to see what's in this.

Right. That's a perfect segue, because last night they went in like under cover of darkness and voted against releasing the files. What does that say to you?

It just goes to show that we are fighting a battle as Democrats against people that constantly are changing the rules, constantly moving goalposts, and constantly changing the landscape of the battle and the fights. You know, in my opinion, it seems to me that rules just don't apply, right?

Like the rules don't apply, the laws don't have any meat and they don't have any basis and reason with these people. So it's kind of like do we continue to try to engage. So I commend Ro Khanna because he said, I'm just going to keep on bringing it up over and over and over again until something happens.

And good for him. At the same time, though, we can also kind of pay attention to all the other stuff that's going on, which I think we're doing pretty well right now.

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